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and if they plunge us into syria and iran, if the congress pushes us that way, we're going to be looking at a $5 trillion bill. >> colonel lawrence wilkerson, thanks for coming in tonight. >>> good evening. i'm ezra klein. rachel maddow has the night off. we begin tonight with an update on the breaking news in the pacific northwest, the terrifying scene that unfolded earlier tonight at a shopping mall in portland, oregon. a gunman with what witnesses describe as a rifle opening fire on holiday shoppers. two people were killed. the shooter also killed, and one person has been seriously injured according to the sheriff's department. an eyewitness who had been browsing the watch counter inside macy's described the scene to our portland, oregon affiliate kgw tv. >> constant boom, boom, boom, boom,boom, boom, boom, boom. it wasn't just a couple of shots. whatever the shooter was shooting at, they continued to shoot. an employee of the store actually saw a masked gunman come in. and as fast as she got the call to security, the gunshots started. so i and others just hit -- you know, got behind
and if they plunge us into syria and iran, if the congress pushes us that way, we're going to be looking at a $5 trillion bill. >> colonel lawrence wilkerson, thanks for coming in tonight. >>> good evening. i'm ezra klein. rachel maddow has the night off. we begin tonight with an update on the breaking news in the pacific northwest, the terrifying scene that unfolded earlier tonight at a shopping mall in portland, oregon. a gunman with what witnesses describe as a rifle opening...
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. >>> the united states is now formally recognizing syria's opposition to president al assad. president obama made the announcement in a taped interview with barbara walters last night. >> the syrian opposition coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people. >> the president's announcement came right before the friends of the syrian people conference got under way today in morocco. france and the uk have already recognized the syrian rebel group. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes pos
. >>> the united states is now formally recognizing syria's opposition to president al assad. president obama made the announcement in a taped interview with barbara walters last night. >> the syrian opposition coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people. >> the president's announcement came right before the friends of the syrian people conference...
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. >>> into syria, violence spilled over the border leaving 17 people dead. richard engel reports syrians are struggling to deal with the blood shet. >> reporter: parts of syria that are controlled by the rebels, there is no talk at all to finding a peaceful solution. the trips and meetings of hillary clinton with the u.n. and her russian counterpart, there's no hope for a diplomatic solution. instead what the people talk about are the suffering of the people. this house was bombed by mistake. the people who lived here lived next to a rebel commander. now they're homeless. there is also tremendous economic difficulties here. the syrian currency is worth about half of what it was worth when the war began. a loaf of bread costs 20 times what it did just a few months ago. but despite all of this the rebels are making advances. they say they hope to soon control the city of aleppo, the country's commercial capital. after that, damascus. richard engel, nfc news. >>> this morning latin music fans around the world are lourng the death of jenny rivera. the 43-year-ol
. >>> into syria, violence spilled over the border leaving 17 people dead. richard engel reports syrians are struggling to deal with the blood shet. >> reporter: parts of syria that are controlled by the rebels, there is no talk at all to finding a peaceful solution. the trips and meetings of hillary clinton with the u.n. and her russian counterpart, there's no hope for a diplomatic solution. instead what the people talk about are the suffering of the people. this house was...
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when we look at syria, what is the next step? >> i think the next step is to wait for things to develop in syria. in egypt, where we played an active part or in libya, and then decided that wasn't particular good idea, the results were not what we had expected. in addition to that, we're not the only players in syria. they said we won't like the results if you get involved appeared topple assad. >> worse or than better for us there? >> i think so. don't forget that syria is a client of russia. whatever else you say about putin, and there's plenty bad you can say, he brought up something interesting last week. he said, look, you guys, go ahead and have an influence on the outcome. you're not going to like the outcome. when the baath party goes inside syria, you'll have muslim -- the best thing for you is to just stay away. so far we have stayed away. >> medal of honor recipient colonel jack jacobs and msnbc analyst. thank you. >>> while the fiscal cliff has reigning in, some are it's report that had contributions of up 63% for the
when we look at syria, what is the next step? >> i think the next step is to wait for things to develop in syria. in egypt, where we played an active part or in libya, and then decided that wasn't particular good idea, the results were not what we had expected. in addition to that, we're not the only players in syria. they said we won't like the results if you get involved appeared topple assad. >> worse or than better for us there? >> i think so. don't forget that syria is a...
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and you may have a swears where you have sunni/shiaa conflict in syria and lebanon and iraq, stretching from baghdad to beirut. and if you have these many sectarian groups fighting, in pockets, various places it will be very dangerous to cover. >> richard engel, you are so capable of covering this, more than almost anybody, it makes me worry about the prospect of covering these things close up. but more than anything, i'm grateful you're back. >> thanks. >> now you have to stay here and become a dentist, a doctor. all right, that will do it for us tonight. let's play hardball. >>> good evening. i'm michael summer connish in for chris matthews. president obama calls for congress to act on a scaled down deal that would spare the middle class on tax hikes from the first of the year. he spoke with john boehner tonight but is grand bargain still possible when everybody is leaving town. then in the weeks since the shooting massacre in a town that left hand 20 children and six educators dead, we've been hearing for plenty calling for new gun control laws but little from the nra until now. in a
and you may have a swears where you have sunni/shiaa conflict in syria and lebanon and iraq, stretching from baghdad to beirut. and if you have these many sectarian groups fighting, in pockets, various places it will be very dangerous to cover. >> richard engel, you are so capable of covering this, more than almost anybody, it makes me worry about the prospect of covering these things close up. but more than anything, i'm grateful you're back. >> thanks. >> now you have to...
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. >>> now to the ongoing crisis in syria. the civil war now spilling over the border into lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes between supporters and opponents of president assad. this as syrian rebels continue to make advances continuing much of the countryside and the open road. richard engel amazingly made his way inside syria and filed this report just outside of the nation's largest city, aleppo. >> reporter: as this conflict drags on the people are suffering, but also showing a tremendous amount of resilience. this house was bombed by mistake. the people who lived here lived next to a rebel commander. now they're homeless. aside from the damage, and there is extensive damage in this part of syria just on the outskirts of the city of aleppo, there are also tremendous economic difficulties. the syrian currency is now worth about half of what it was worth before this war started. a loaf of bread costs 20 times more than it did just a few months ago. fuel is in very short supply, and if you can fin
. >>> now to the ongoing crisis in syria. the civil war now spilling over the border into lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes between supporters and opponents of president assad. this as syrian rebels continue to make advances continuing much of the countryside and the open road. richard engel amazingly made his way inside syria and filed this report just outside of the nation's largest city, aleppo. >> reporter: as this conflict drags on the people are...
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both russia and the united states have an interest in making sure that the chemical weapons stocks in syria don't fall into the hands of a radical islamist group or terrorist group which could happen in the event of the fall of the assad government, so american and russian interests may be converging at the end of this phase of the syrian conflict more than they were certainly, say, a year ago when russia was an unstinting supporter of the assad regime. >> nicolas burns, ending on an up note. thank you very much. >> good to see you. this just in. president obama moments ago outside the white house walking over to blair house talked about the state of the fiscal cliff talks in answer to a question. >> how are you feeling about a deal? optimistic? >> still a work in progress. >> he said it's a work in progress. coming up next, it's all about hillary, but, first, sir paul mccartney paying tribute to hurricane sandy. first responders. while rocking the 12-12-12 benefit concert. ♪ remember, we're playing to lose. i thought we won at everything? by losing, we win. win what? business. and cdw de
both russia and the united states have an interest in making sure that the chemical weapons stocks in syria don't fall into the hands of a radical islamist group or terrorist group which could happen in the event of the fall of the assad government, so american and russian interests may be converging at the end of this phase of the syrian conflict more than they were certainly, say, a year ago when russia was an unstinting supporter of the assad regime. >> nicolas burns, ending on an up...
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and that was happening every day. >> richard and his team were not harmed and left syria on tuesday. he'll share more of his story on the "today" show. >>> over on wall street, the dow gained 59 points yesterday. the s&p up seven and the nasdaq added six. the nikkei fell 99 while the hang seng dropped 153. >>> today could be a tense day for markets. stock futures fell sharply thursday evening after house speaker john boehner said he failed to mount support for his plan b bill. intercontinental xarchlg is buying the new york stock exchange for $8.2 billion sent both companies soaring yesterday. research in motion tumbled more than 10% after reporting its first ever decline in subscribers. >>> peter madoff, the brother of jailed ponzi skeeper bernie madoff, will serve ten years in prison. peter madoff still says he's innocent. >>> facebook is testing a new way to make some money. charging users $1 to send an internal e-mail message to someone who is not on their friend list. forget the fiscal crisis. come january 1st there's a possibility that milk prices could rise to as much as $6 to
and that was happening every day. >> richard and his team were not harmed and left syria on tuesday. he'll share more of his story on the "today" show. >>> over on wall street, the dow gained 59 points yesterday. the s&p up seven and the nasdaq added six. the nikkei fell 99 while the hang seng dropped 153. >>> today could be a tense day for markets. stock futures fell sharply thursday evening after house speaker john boehner said he failed to mount support...
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he and his crew were kidnapped thursday morning in syria. they were released late last night and richard described the harrowing ordeal this morning and from all of us at "the cycle," richard, we are so glad you're okay. >> we were with gunmen, rebels. they executed one of them on the spot. they took us to a series of safehouses and interrogation places. we weren't physically beaten or tortured. it was a lot of psychological tour which you are. threats of being killed. we were in the back of what you would think of as a minivan and as we were driving along the road, the kidnappers saw this checkpoint. started a gun fight with it, two of the kidnappers were killed. we climbed out of the vehicle and the rebels took us. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. if you're eligible for medicare, you might know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare s
he and his crew were kidnapped thursday morning in syria. they were released late last night and richard described the harrowing ordeal this morning and from all of us at "the cycle," richard, we are so glad you're okay. >> we were with gunmen, rebels. they executed one of them on the spot. they took us to a series of safehouses and interrogation places. we weren't physically beaten or tortured. it was a lot of psychological tour which you are. threats of being killed. we were...
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that this is a red line syria should not cross? >> the noose is tightening. the russians understand the arc on assad is moving south quickly. the turks have finally requested at least defensive patriot batteries, probably patriot batteries designed to deal with missiles rather than aircraft. should they be anti-aircraft patriots you could see an offensive capacity and capability. the rebels in syria are gaining force, maybe a little more coherens to their opposition and against the backdrop of all of this you have another -- yet another report of the prospects of agents being mixed with respect to chemical weapons capacity. i think this is the red line. it's a nightmarish scenario because it would force some sort of military intervention should these chemical weapons and their deployed either artillery shells or cones, the syrians have hundreds, sarin gas, maybe various nerve agents. the united states or nato would have to intercede eater from the air to de -- eater from the air to destroy these or special forces operations or wors
that this is a red line syria should not cross? >> the noose is tightening. the russians understand the arc on assad is moving south quickly. the turks have finally requested at least defensive patriot batteries, probably patriot batteries designed to deal with missiles rather than aircraft. should they be anti-aircraft patriots you could see an offensive capacity and capability. the rebels in syria are gaining force, maybe a little more coherens to their opposition and against the...
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is sending patriot air defense missiles and 400 troops to syria. the goal clearly is to show that they're going to make a commitment to deter a syrian attack. >> i think so and hope so. i can understand what why turkey would be very concerned and we have seen indications that syria has prepared in some respects these chemical weapons that is deeply disturbing and we have also seen that the mean sheen guns would be fired against the syrian people themselves, so if you have a government that's going to file -- chemical weapons and and as a neighboring -- regime you got to think, if they're willing to take the steps against their own people. i think it was a prudent step to take and i hope that she knows that any step it takes, it's chemical weapons against their own people or others would be met with a severest of consequences. do you believe his role is almost over? >> well, he's certainly lost control, but this week, we're only stating the obvious. but they can't help but see the deterioration in the position of the assad they're having to resort t
is sending patriot air defense missiles and 400 troops to syria. the goal clearly is to show that they're going to make a commitment to deter a syrian attack. >> i think so and hope so. i can understand what why turkey would be very concerned and we have seen indications that syria has prepared in some respects these chemical weapons that is deeply disturbing and we have also seen that the mean sheen guns would be fired against the syrian people themselves, so if you have a government...
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i think that solving syria, moving syria into a different place changes the game for all the other great powers with iran. >> i would love -- i'm out of time. i would love to get going with morsi. david sanger with egypt and morsi, is this going to be a situation, does he back off of this a little bit because there's such an uprising? >> yeah, you'd think so but so far his public signals have been doubling down on passing the constitution that would give him these big powers. i can't imagine that's a particularly sustainable position after he saw what happened to mubarak. >> right, he wouldn't be there. >> steve, what is the role of the united states in trying to push morrissey on this? >> i think a $4.9 billion imf package. and a very narrow window morsi has to influence the economic v vector for the country. and if he doesn't figure out a way to work with other parts of the egyptian political establishment that money is going to disappear. it's all financial leverage. >>> next the bizarre head scratching move from the romney campaign. plus, the showdown of 2012 is upon us. we'll tell y
i think that solving syria, moving syria into a different place changes the game for all the other great powers with iran. >> i would love -- i'm out of time. i would love to get going with morsi. david sanger with egypt and morsi, is this going to be a situation, does he back off of this a little bit because there's such an uprising? >> yeah, you'd think so but so far his public signals have been doubling down on passing the constitution that would give him these big powers. i...
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in syria there are so many more competing factions for power, that i think a regime change in syria, we might be in for a whole different category of problems. to say that the united states should just walk in there and designate a new leader or do whatever it takes, i mean, that itself is a little naive and easy to say when you're not sitting in the chair. >> thank you very much. coming up, i talk with congressman bill pascral who wroelt a letter to make an urgent request about the alternative minimum task. he said failure to increase federal taxes for half of the people in his state. plus, treasury secretary tim geithner says the obama administration is, quote, absolutely ready to go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the rich. do you support that decision? it is our gut check. first, in today's money minute, here's a look at the markets. ♪ ♪ mom? dad? guys? [ engine turns over ] [ engine revs ] ♪ he'll be fine. [ male announcer ] more people are leaving bmw, mercedes and lexus for audi than ever before. take advantage of exceptional values during the seas
in syria there are so many more competing factions for power, that i think a regime change in syria, we might be in for a whole different category of problems. to say that the united states should just walk in there and designate a new leader or do whatever it takes, i mean, that itself is a little naive and easy to say when you're not sitting in the chair. >> thank you very much. coming up, i talk with congressman bill pascral who wroelt a letter to make an urgent request about the...
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ambassador, if i could move you to syria. we learned today that syria is launching skud missiles on their own people. the president had this to say. take a listen. >> we've made a decision that the syrian opposition coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people in opposition to the assad regime. >> so ambassador, how does america's afact change in practice? >> it signals to the other countries that have recognized this syrian coalition that it's time to begin providing more effective weaponry we have been unable to do. so britain, france allies are already doing that. and it shows to the effect our diplomacy has been effective to help this coalition which is now meeting in morocco under the friends of syria arrangement. but the most important thing here is while this is diplomatic recognition, martin, the fighting drags on. and the humanitarian crisis is abysmal. and that's the real story here. >> i a
ambassador, if i could move you to syria. we learned today that syria is launching skud missiles on their own people. the president had this to say. take a listen. >> we've made a decision that the syrian opposition coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people in opposition to the assad regime. >> so ambassador, how does america's afact change in practice?...
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. >>> overseas, developing news on the situation in syria where the civil war there has killed an estimated 40,000 people since march of last year. the "new york times" is reporting that russian warships are heading to the mediterranean for what could be the early stages of an evacuation of russian citizens there. while moscow has been a supporter of bashar al assad, there are some signs that russia's confidence in the regime is slipping. news that richard engel was safely freed from syrian kidnappers is attracting a ton of attention online and relief in the nbc family. richard described his ordeal yesterday on the "today" show. >> as we were moving along the road, the kidnappers came across a checkpoint. so we were in the back of what you would think of as a machinemachin minivan. as we were driving along, the kidnappers saw this checkpoint, started a gunfight with it. two of the kidnappers were killed. we climbed out of the vehicle, and the rebels took us. >> engel who has been reporting on the syrian conflict since it began was safely moved to turkey. >>> as president obama prepares his
. >>> overseas, developing news on the situation in syria where the civil war there has killed an estimated 40,000 people since march of last year. the "new york times" is reporting that russian warships are heading to the mediterranean for what could be the early stages of an evacuation of russian citizens there. while moscow has been a supporter of bashar al assad, there are some signs that russia's confidence in the regime is slipping. news that richard engel was safely...
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. >>> and a real scare in syria turns into a real happy ending. tonight we'll tell you how nbc's richard engel escaped from his kidnappers. >> i'm very happy that we're here this morning. >> thanks for watching. it may be a rare moment in gun history, but the nation is focused on gun control following the massacre in connecticut. the national rifle association finally broke its silence on the newtown shooting. a statement released today by the organization said, in part, the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the language is similar to president obama's call for meaningful action, but contribution from the nra remains to be seen. but several republican politicians are already headed in the direction of change. michigan governor rick snyder saw republicans in his state legislature pass a bill to allow guns in schools and day care centers. the bill was passed one day before the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. today the republican governor vetoed the bill. according to the detroit news, snyd
. >>> and a real scare in syria turns into a real happy ending. tonight we'll tell you how nbc's richard engel escaped from his kidnappers. >> i'm very happy that we're here this morning. >> thanks for watching. it may be a rare moment in gun history, but the nation is focused on gun control following the massacre in connecticut. the national rifle association finally broke its silence on the newtown shooting. a statement released today by the organization said, in part,...
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are these individuals from syria or is this conflict attracting militants from overseas? >> reporter: according to western intelligence officials, according to syrians and personally speaking from individuals i have spoken to over the course of covering this conflict, it is definitely attracting people from the region and overseas. i personally have met with rebel fighters that have come from libya, even some from egypt who have wanted to go to syria to fight. they see this as a larger ideological conflict. the government is a staunchly secular one. they believe syria is engaged in what they consider a jihad or a holy war, and they're using that to rally muslims from all around the world to come and join the fight. western intelligence sources and others have reported on the participation of fighters from the caucuses, central asia, as well as from iraq and other neighboring countries. there's no doubt it is galvanizing many fighters to come and join what they say is a religious fight against secularism. >> we've heard talk of an increasingly desperate syrian government c
are these individuals from syria or is this conflict attracting militants from overseas? >> reporter: according to western intelligence officials, according to syrians and personally speaking from individuals i have spoken to over the course of covering this conflict, it is definitely attracting people from the region and overseas. i personally have met with rebel fighters that have come from libya, even some from egypt who have wanted to go to syria to fight. they see this as a larger...
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chief foreign correspondent richard engel and his team were freed from captors in syria this morning after being held hostage for five days. the three men were freed by rebels after firefight at a check point and are now safely out of the country. they appeared on the "today" show this morning describing the frightening ordeal. >> we were with some gunmen, some rebels who were escorted us. they executed one of them on the spot. then they took us to a series of safehouses and interrogation places. and they kept us blindfolded, bound. we weren't physically beaten or tortured. it was a lot of psychological torture. threats of being killed. they made us choose who would be shot first and there were mock shootings. pretended to shoot gazi several times and when you were blindfolded and then fired a gun up in the air. it can be very traumatic experience. >> i'll be honest. they were long five hard days and a few moments of despair at least for me, about my family, my brother, my parents, my wife and i was feeling bad of what i've been putting them through because of my captivity but it hel
chief foreign correspondent richard engel and his team were freed from captors in syria this morning after being held hostage for five days. the three men were freed by rebels after firefight at a check point and are now safely out of the country. they appeared on the "today" show this morning describing the frightening ordeal. >> we were with some gunmen, some rebels who were escorted us. they executed one of them on the spot. then they took us to a series of safehouses and...
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this is the gate, the crossing between turkey and syria. and we crossed through bab al hawa, we were heading into this area in the center to meet with a rebel commander. and we were traveling with well-known people, it was set up. the rebel actually came to the border to get us, that is how comfortable people felt moving in this area. we were going to meet this rebel commander, he was going to show us his area, he said i'll come and pick you up. he came, picked us up, hello, hello, then we drive off. just a few minutes after leaving the border crossing, traveling with the rebel commander and one of his men and our whole team we got ambushed. and gunmen came from the side of the road, surrounded our car, wearing ski masks, they had a truck waiting for us. and threw us in the back of the truck, boom, the doors close. and they drive off. >> large number of people, they were lying in wait. it seems like it was a well-coordinated. >> they were ambushed, these were government people, they were -- the rebel commander thought maybe these were other
this is the gate, the crossing between turkey and syria. and we crossed through bab al hawa, we were heading into this area in the center to meet with a rebel commander. and we were traveling with well-known people, it was set up. the rebel actually came to the border to get us, that is how comfortable people felt moving in this area. we were going to meet this rebel commander, he was going to show us his area, he said i'll come and pick you up. he came, picked us up, hello, hello, then we...
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, where the syria military is now firing scud missiles at rebel forces in the north, almost thumbing its nose a little bit at the world community here. jim joins me now. it's as if essentially they've seen the line the world is drawing when it comes to chemical weapons and feel they can do almost anything else. >> u.s. officials said this is a clear sign the assad regime in damascus is becoming ever more desperate. this is the first time in a two-year war that the syrian military has used these scud missiles against the rebels. they fired six to eight of them into the north, presumably at rebel strongholds. at least two of them, there are reports, fell in neighborhoods. there are other signs that would make it appear anyway that the assad regime is in its final days. even the russians are saying publicly that they're growing more pessimistic that they could actually survive. and if they're saying that publicly, the russians have to be putting that into assad's ear. now, let's flip that on its head. u.s. intelligence today indicates that assad instead of looking for an exit is actuall
, where the syria military is now firing scud missiles at rebel forces in the north, almost thumbing its nose a little bit at the world community here. jim joins me now. it's as if essentially they've seen the line the world is drawing when it comes to chemical weapons and feel they can do almost anything else. >> u.s. officials said this is a clear sign the assad regime in damascus is becoming ever more desperate. this is the first time in a two-year war that the syrian military has used...
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what is maybe happening in syria is one of those things that crosses the line. you can tell by the president and the american secretary of state talked about it today and threatened that the u.s. is going to act in response. i do not know exactly what that means and neither do you, but we're probably not talking about a sternly-worded letter. we're talking about the nerve agents. we're talking about mustard gas. do you remember the doomsday cult back in the mid-'90s that killed 13 people and seriously injured 50 people and temporarily blinded a thousand people? imagine that but with weapons grade disseminated by missile. associated press says that syria is believed to have several hundred ballistic surface to surface missiles capable of carrying chemical war heads plus several tons of weapons stored in large drums or in artillery shells. the cause for all the concern right now including the statements from president obama and secretary clinton is the reports from this weekend. reports from this weekend quoting intelligence sources saying there was "heightened ac
what is maybe happening in syria is one of those things that crosses the line. you can tell by the president and the american secretary of state talked about it today and threatened that the u.s. is going to act in response. i do not know exactly what that means and neither do you, but we're probably not talking about a sternly-worded letter. we're talking about the nerve agents. we're talking about mustard gas. do you remember the doomsday cult back in the mid-'90s that killed 13 people and...
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i would say -- i mean i think the thing i'm most struck by is syria. it just seems to me, you have the -- what looks likes the start of assad preparing the possibility of using chemical weapons as nbc reported yesterday. what do we do? what can we do? senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and did a lead story on nightly news on this topic. the question fors the president is ultimately what do you do when your foreign policy has been premised on bringing american troops home, at a time when american power and influence is needed particularly in the middle east, but there are no easy answers. this i think is what sort of calls out for an obama doctrine in a second term. he doesn't seem to have one at the moment which is a big issue. >> and doesn't have a foreign policy team yet. he's still wrestling with those decisions. more on that to come. david gregory, thank y
i would say -- i mean i think the thing i'm most struck by is syria. it just seems to me, you have the -- what looks likes the start of assad preparing the possibility of using chemical weapons as nbc reported yesterday. what do we do? what can we do? senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and...
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syria has not signed a chemical weapons convention. they have not, however, moved to use these weapons but they are, according to what we know from the reporting, they are beginning to move these out of storage and the question is, what options do we have and right now the primary option is to ensure that the message is clear to assad and those around him that he cannot use these weapons in any form whatsoever and it seems to have heightened international diplomatic activity, particularly with russia in terms of getting that message out that that's a red line that can't be passed. >> how essential is russia being involved? >> russia is key. russia has been backing assad diplomatically at the u.n. and has deep ties into assad's regime. if they begin to walk away from syria and there appear to be signals that they are distancing themselves, that will put pressure on those around assad to make sure that they do not take assad's lead in potentially using these weapons and helpses move towards the resolution of this. >> you have a ground st
syria has not signed a chemical weapons convention. they have not, however, moved to use these weapons but they are, according to what we know from the reporting, they are beginning to move these out of storage and the question is, what options do we have and right now the primary option is to ensure that the message is clear to assad and those around him that he cannot use these weapons in any form whatsoever and it seems to have heightened international diplomatic activity, particularly with...
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gets involved in syria, it won't transform u.s. policy in the middle east and change the dynamics of everything in washington. trust us on this including the fiscal cliff. >>> well, driving a hard bargain, president obama heads to the motor city and in the middle of a union fight. i have a former governor of michigan here. plus, we'll talk fiscal cliff and debt ceiling with him. plus, one hatch of simpson-bowles. the erskine bowles half. the less dancing of the duo. why former chief of staff is growing more optimistic we'll be able to get a deal before the cliff dive. by the way, will he take a job in president obama's cabinet? i'll have that answer straight ahead. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule today. you can see it's michigan with the lunch time remarks. back to the white house before 5:00. [ male announcer ] when ziggy the cat appeared at their door, he opened up jake's very private world. at first, jake's family thought they saved ziggy, but his connection with jake has been a lifesaver. for a love this strong,
gets involved in syria, it won't transform u.s. policy in the middle east and change the dynamics of everything in washington. trust us on this including the fiscal cliff. >>> well, driving a hard bargain, president obama heads to the motor city and in the middle of a union fight. i have a former governor of michigan here. plus, we'll talk fiscal cliff and debt ceiling with him. plus, one hatch of simpson-bowles. the erskine bowles half. the less dancing of the duo. why former chief of...
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. >> meantime let's talk about syria. the civil war there spilled over to lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes. nbc news reported president assad is getting chemical weapons ready to use on his people. of course, they've denied it. where do you put the threat level? >> well, i think the threat level is certainly increasing. you know, we obviously don't have access to those intelligence reports. but you've heard lots of signs of alarm from u.s. officials that there are indications of these chemical weapons are being prepared for use. when you combine that with the signs that maybe assad's forces are in a little bit more danger from the rebels than they were before, you might think that perhaps the regime is becoming desperate enough to use these chemical weapons. that said, chris, i do think it would be near suicidal for the regime to do so. so far the international community has stayed out. i don't think the united states wants to get involved. but this sort of step could almost force the united
. >> meantime let's talk about syria. the civil war there spilled over to lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes. nbc news reported president assad is getting chemical weapons ready to use on his people. of course, they've denied it. where do you put the threat level? >> well, i think the threat level is certainly increasing. you know, we obviously don't have access to those intelligence reports. but you've heard lots of signs of alarm from u.s. officials...
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. >> we were driving in syria about five days ago in what we thought was a rebel-controlled area. we were with some of the rebels, and as we were moving down the road, a group of gunmen just literally jumped out of the trees and bushes on the side of the road. there were probably 15 gunmen. they were wearing ski machx. they were heavily armed. they dragged us out of the car. they had a container truck positioned waiting by the side of the road. they put us into that container truck. we were with some gunmen, some rebels who were escorting us. they executed one of them on the spot. then they took us to a series of safehouses and interrogation places. >> well, nbc news has no confirmation of the identity of those kidnappers. richard engel, of course, a veteran correspondent, says he has a good sense of who they were. >> this was a group known as the shabiha. this is a government militia. these are people who are loyal to president bashir al assad. they are shiite. they were talking openly about their loyalty to the government, openly expressing their shia faith. they are trained by
. >> we were driving in syria about five days ago in what we thought was a rebel-controlled area. we were with some of the rebels, and as we were moving down the road, a group of gunmen just literally jumped out of the trees and bushes on the side of the road. there were probably 15 gunmen. they were wearing ski machx. they were heavily armed. they dragged us out of the car. they had a container truck positioned waiting by the side of the road. they put us into that container truck. we...
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process result in a unified, democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. a future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> the syrian conflict is also aif he canning the region now. beyond the fears of chemical weapons being used, today the jordanian armed forces returned fire after several shells fired from syria landed in their territory and wounded a soldier. up next back here, big earthquake hits the same japanese coast devastated by last year's massive quake, and what the white house is considering doing that could prevent colorado and washington state from enacting those new pot laws. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. go ahead, mark your calendars. offering some of our best values of the year. it's the last day you can switch your medicare part d plan.
process result in a unified, democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. a future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> the syrian conflict is also aif he canning the region now. beyond the fears of chemical weapons being used, today the jordanian armed forces returned fire after several shells fired from syria landed in their territory and wounded a soldier. up next back here, big earthquake hits the same japanese coast devastated by last year's massive quake, and...
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. >>> we go now from our own problems with the fiscal cliff in this country to syria being on the brink. secretary of defense leon panetta who is in kuwait today meeting with officials and visiting troops has this to say about syria's escalating crisis. >> continue to make clear to them that they should not, under any means, make use of these chemical weapons against their own population, that that would -- that would producer is use consequences. >> joining me now in studio is retired u.s. army general. it's great to see you and in person, no less. but just so everybody can make that out because i know it was hard for people to hear the secretary there saying we continue to make clear to them they should not under any means make use of these chemical weapons against their own population, that would producer is use consequences. when he's talking about serious consequences what does that mean to the u.s., the stake, the investment we would make militarily. >> i'm sure one thing we're convinced of is that we don't want to take military action to syria. it's a bad idea to commit either na
. >>> we go now from our own problems with the fiscal cliff in this country to syria being on the brink. secretary of defense leon panetta who is in kuwait today meeting with officials and visiting troops has this to say about syria's escalating crisis. >> continue to make clear to them that they should not, under any means, make use of these chemical weapons against their own population, that that would -- that would producer is use consequences. >> joining me now in...
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there's certainly risks where we are with respect to syria. i would not close the door completely to some kind of an agreement whereby president assad could move to another country and the reason i say that is, that the dangers of an imploding syria, of the complete implosion of the state, are really serious and contrary to the national security interests of the united states. it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly. the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed and so i do not want to lock myself into nor do i think our nation should lock ourselves into, a complete refusal to create the dynamic where we can avoid that kind of death and destruction and where we will not serve our greater national security interests. and therefore, i want to see us push rapidly towards the negotiation. i think it can happen. i also believe that assad's regime is in its final months. i don't know if it will be three or six. i can't it tell you the numbe
there's certainly risks where we are with respect to syria. i would not close the door completely to some kind of an agreement whereby president assad could move to another country and the reason i say that is, that the dangers of an imploding syria, of the complete implosion of the state, are really serious and contrary to the national security interests of the united states. it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is...
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during this trip panetta mentioned the threat of syria using chemical weapons against their own people seeming to have diminished. >>> we're learning more about why nelson mandela is in the hospital. he is suffering from a recurring lung infection but is responding to treatment. mandela, 4 years old, has been in the hospital since saturday. >>> the australian radio station that aired a prank on the london nurse says it will make a major donation to her family. the station says it will give all of its advertising revenue for the rest of the year to a fund for the lady found dead just days after taking the call. she was tricked into thinking she was speaking to the queen who wanted information on kate, duchess of cambridge. >>> the second wib winner of the whopping powerball jackpot has been identified. he's 37 years old, matthew good lives in a phoenix suburb. sorry, ladies, he's married. the associated press says good took the one-time payout, $192 million last week. he apparently told lottery officials he was afraid to claim it next year because of the fiscal cliff and there might be
during this trip panetta mentioned the threat of syria using chemical weapons against their own people seeming to have diminished. >>> we're learning more about why nelson mandela is in the hospital. he is suffering from a recurring lung infection but is responding to treatment. mandela, 4 years old, has been in the hospital since saturday. >>> the australian radio station that aired a prank on the london nurse says it will make a major donation to her family. the station says...
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show this, our colleague, richard engle and his crew are safe this morning after escaping gunmen in syria. they were held for five days before they were freed following a gun fight between the kidnappers and rebel forces in syria. they appeared on the "today" show this morning just hours after they release. here is a bit of the story. >> we were driving in syria about five days ago in wa we thought was a rebel-controlled area. we were with some of the rebels. and as we were moving down the road, a group of gunmen just literally jumped ott of the trees and bushes on the side of the road. there were probably 15 gunmen. they were wearing ski masks. they were heavily armed. they dragged ussous of the car. they had a container truck positioned waiting by the side of the road. they put us into that container truck. we were with some gun men, some rebels who were escorting us. they executed one of them on the spot. then they took us to a series of safe houses and interrogation places. and they kept us blindfolded, bound. we weren't physically beaten or tortured. it was a lot of psychological tor
show this, our colleague, richard engle and his crew are safe this morning after escaping gunmen in syria. they were held for five days before they were freed following a gun fight between the kidnappers and rebel forces in syria. they appeared on the "today" show this morning just hours after they release. here is a bit of the story. >> we were driving in syria about five days ago in wa we thought was a rebel-controlled area. we were with some of the rebels. and as we were...
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so the idea that we could prevent arms flows from iran into syria by our presence in iraq is ludicrous. >> what do you think of his criticism of president obama? >> i think his criticism of the president is like you said, he likes to lie. this man really likes to lie. this is a man, who after all, we have a 6,000 page select intelligence report right now on torture and enhanced interrogation techniques. this is a man who lied to the american people about the effectiveness of torture. this 6,000 page report is going to debunk that. and i know every expert i've talked to in the fbi, and in the cia, glenn carl for example told me none of this torture worked. none of this enhanced interrogation worked. it did not, as cheney has alleged, lead to the killing of bin laden. it was counterproductive. it was damaging to our reputation and he's still lying about it. >> we haven't heard the last of that, have we? >> no, we haven't. >> how aggressive do you think lawmakers ought to be with that report? >> i think it ought to be at least portions of it, just like i thought the 9/11 commission portio
so the idea that we could prevent arms flows from iran into syria by our presence in iraq is ludicrous. >> what do you think of his criticism of president obama? >> i think his criticism of the president is like you said, he likes to lie. this man really likes to lie. this is a man, who after all, we have a 6,000 page select intelligence report right now on torture and enhanced interrogation techniques. this is a man who lied to the american people about the effectiveness of...
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syria bomb rebels today. secretary clinton says that country is considering using chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence. >> joining me now is former state department egypt officer joel reuben. good to have you here. let's start with that red line where syria is right now. it's estimated more than 40,000 people have been killed in this 20-month-old revolve against the government. these new reports suggesting the fresh activity at syrian chemical weapons depots. earlier this year the president singled out that threat posed by chemical weapons as a cause for greater u.s. involvement. now secretary clinton giving this warning. where do you see this headed? >> this is a very overt declaration by the secretary. it's been estimated it would take about 75,000 troops to secure these chemical weapon sites if they are used. syria has never acknowledged having them but acknowledged that when responding
syria bomb rebels today. secretary clinton says that country is considering using chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence. >> joining me now is former state department egypt officer joel reuben. good to have you here. let's start with that red line where syria is right now. it's estimated more than 40,000 people have been killed in this 20-month-old revolve against...
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syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that times 10. and there's a lot of worry about what are you going to do with that? you have a worry about the slaughter of the allies in the mountains. you have to worry about just this whole break-up and who would govern this region that is so, so -- this country that is so critical for the whole region. but i do think, though, that chemical weapons would be sort of -- that -- i think for the obama administration, that's a line that they would have trouble defending their passivity so far if assad crossed. that's a hard one. it's hard for me to imagine them not doing anything. >> but given that they haven't really done very much over the past 21 months, and they haven't done very much at all, it's not implausible that they would not do the declarative thing of invading or stopping the use of chemical weapons. it's very little solace that now they are being bombed with chemical weapons, president ob
syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that times 10. and there's a lot of worry about what are you going to do with that? you have a worry about the slaughter of the allies in the mountains. you have to worry about just this whole break-up and who would govern this region that is so, so -- this country that is so critical for the whole region. but i do think, though, that chemical weapons would be sort...
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phillips'. >>> developing news out of syria. this is amateur video. rebels say it shows syrian forces firing rockets at targets in the capital of da mass occur. a mortar slammed into a suburban school killing 29 students and a teacher. the news agency blamed it on rebels. the rebels have made gains in recent weeks. now, this new violence coming amid growing concerns. president asad is preparing to use chemical weapons against his own people. it prompted the certain warning from the president. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> jim miklaszewski joins us live. nato foreign leaders including secretary of state clinton are in brussels today expressing concerns of what we hear possibly out of syria. >> tamron, here's what triggered the concerns. the rebels are making significant gains on damascus itself, and ther
phillips'. >>> developing news out of syria. this is amateur video. rebels say it shows syrian forces firing rockets at targets in the capital of da mass occur. a mortar slammed into a suburban school killing 29 students and a teacher. the news agency blamed it on rebels. the rebels have made gains in recent weeks. now, this new violence coming amid growing concerns. president asad is preparing to use chemical weapons against his own people. it prompted the certain warning from the...
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against the backdrop of syria and lesser extent egypt in terms of combatting grave human rights abuses around the world i wonder what you make of the american appetite as it stands given where we've been on certain issues after bosnia, rwanda, there was a sense we would not let these things go without attention and resources and you look at what's happening in syria and it's a complicated issue to be sure but is there an american outcry to the extent that we would have expected to have one, given where we've been on human rights abuses in previous eras? >> i think there is a tremendous amount of compassion and concern by ordinary americans. i hate to say this on this tv show, but you're actually covering those issues and a lot of places just aren't to the extent they used to. i think that's part of the problem. but one example of that is right now, one of the issues we're really working hard on, is this anti-homosexually bill in uganda which would make homosexuality punishable by the death penalty. it's wound its way through the system, on the precipes of being passed. the speaker of t
against the backdrop of syria and lesser extent egypt in terms of combatting grave human rights abuses around the world i wonder what you make of the american appetite as it stands given where we've been on certain issues after bosnia, rwanda, there was a sense we would not let these things go without attention and resources and you look at what's happening in syria and it's a complicated issue to be sure but is there an american outcry to the extent that we would have expected to have one,...
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. >>> and then there is syria, where nbc news reports the assad regime is preparing chemical weapons that can be loaded onto missiles. and human rights groups say more than 40,000 people have been killed in the last 21 months. we here in america are really intent right now on how we will rewrite our tax code. but if matters in egypt and syria or israel and the palestinian territories which are already getting pretty deadly and tragic and chaotic, if they get worse, the crisis about high end marginal tax cuts will begin to look a lot less like a crisis in comparison. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. [ male announcer ] are you on medicare? do you have the coverage you need? open enrollment ends friday, december 7th. so don't wait. now's the time to get on a path that could be right for you... with unitedhealthcare medicare solutions. call today to learn about the kinds of c
. >>> and then there is syria, where nbc news reports the assad regime is preparing chemical weapons that can be loaded onto missiles. and human rights groups say more than 40,000 people have been killed in the last 21 months. we here in america are really intent right now on how we will rewrite our tax code. but if matters in egypt and syria or israel and the palestinian territories which are already getting pretty deadly and tragic and chaotic, if they get worse, the crisis about...
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. >>> and then there is syria, where nbc news reports the assad regime is preparing chemical weapons that can be loaded on the missiles. and human rights groups say more than 40,000 people have been killed in the last 21 months. we here in america are really intent right now on how we will rewrite our tax code. but if matters in egypt and syria or israel and the palestinian territories which are already getting pretty deadly and tragic and chaotic, if they get worse, the crisis about high end marginal tax cuts will begin to look a lot less like a crisis in comparison. ♪ if it wasn't for you ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪ i'd have nothing to lose [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. take an extra 10 percent off storewide, now through sunday. wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eucerinus.com. a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announ
. >>> and then there is syria, where nbc news reports the assad regime is preparing chemical weapons that can be loaded on the missiles. and human rights groups say more than 40,000 people have been killed in the last 21 months. we here in america are really intent right now on how we will rewrite our tax code. but if matters in egypt and syria or israel and the palestinian territories which are already getting pretty deadly and tragic and chaotic, if they get worse, the crisis about...